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		<title>Comment on Snowmobile Season Just Around the Corner by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/11/16/snowmobile-season-just-around-the-corner/comment-page-1/#comment-9255</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please keep in mind that some of the previous comments date back to 2009 so the issue isn&#039;t necessarily relevant in 2012.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Snowmobile Season Just Around the Corner by art</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/11/16/snowmobile-season-just-around-the-corner/comment-page-1/#comment-9174</link>
		<dc:creator>art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mr Curt Becker .also have we had 6 inches of snow yet this year ? my understanding they are not supposed even be on the trail until there is enough snow (6 inches) to make sure the snowmobiles don&#039;t wear grooves and gouges into the surface ! I also think that &quot; oh my &quot; should think about their  little comments and quit being sarcastic .Maybe this does affect Mr Curt  and his concerns are directed about the ordinances .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mr Curt Becker .also have we had 6 inches of snow yet this year ? my understanding they are not supposed even be on the trail until there is enough snow (6 inches) to make sure the snowmobiles don&#8217;t wear grooves and gouges into the surface ! I also think that &#8221; oh my &#8221; should think about their  little comments and quit being sarcastic .Maybe this does affect Mr Curt  and his concerns are directed about the ordinances .</p>
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		<title>Comment on Elmwood Cemetery Rules by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/11/16/elmwood-cemetery-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9038</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will forward you comment on to the DPW Director for him to investigate if there are items placed on the sites that do not meet our rules.  While we always hope that people exercise good judgement (especially at the cemetery) regrettably, we cannot mandate good taste or tact in all instances. One person&#039;s definition of gaudy may be beautiful in another person&#039;s eyes.  Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Kathy.  We will take a look around at Elmwood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will forward you comment on to the DPW Director for him to investigate if there are items placed on the sites that do not meet our rules.  While we always hope that people exercise good judgement (especially at the cemetery) regrettably, we cannot mandate good taste or tact in all instances. One person&#8217;s definition of gaudy may be beautiful in another person&#8217;s eyes.  Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Kathy.  We will take a look around at Elmwood.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Elmwood Cemetery Rules by Kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/11/16/elmwood-cemetery-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9022</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read a comment about enforcement of seasonal parking rules.  Why not enforce cemetery rules and remove the large deer statue, balloons, and other gaudy paraphernalia on graves?  These things make the cemetery look more like a gypsy camp instead of a place of rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read a comment about enforcement of seasonal parking rules.  Why not enforce cemetery rules and remove the large deer statue, balloons, and other gaudy paraphernalia on graves?  These things make the cemetery look more like a gypsy camp instead of a place of rest.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Enacts Two New Policies by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/06/27/city-enacts-two-new-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-7598</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right Ronny...there hasn&#039;t exactly been a run on sprinkling meters.  It is unnecessary to write the inspection process into the Code of Ordinances, because those inspections are regulated by the State of Michigan.  Our DPW employees must document all sprinkling meters and inspections and report to those inspections to DEQ to ensure there is no cross-connection or possibility for back-flow into the City&#039;s water system.  

You will continue to see work done over the next month or so on the Cedar Creek.  Josh Zuiderveen from Streamworks LLC has truly been a friend to the City of Cedar Springs.  If you see Josh, be sure to tell him &quot;thanks&quot; for all of his hard work.  

Regrettably, the cost to operate the fountain at North Park didn&#039;t justify it&#039;s installation this summer.  Considering that we have had to layoff staff and reduce other more critical services to residents, taxpayers and even the Red Flannel Festival, it was a decision that could no longer be avoided.  We hope that our revenue stream improves over the course of the next couple of years and that we can bring it back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Ronny&#8230;there hasn&#8217;t exactly been a run on sprinkling meters.  It is unnecessary to write the inspection process into the Code of Ordinances, because those inspections are regulated by the State of Michigan.  Our DPW employees must document all sprinkling meters and inspections and report to those inspections to DEQ to ensure there is no cross-connection or possibility for back-flow into the City&#8217;s water system.  </p>
<p>You will continue to see work done over the next month or so on the Cedar Creek.  Josh Zuiderveen from Streamworks LLC has truly been a friend to the City of Cedar Springs.  If you see Josh, be sure to tell him &#8220;thanks&#8221; for all of his hard work.  </p>
<p>Regrettably, the cost to operate the fountain at North Park didn&#8217;t justify it&#8217;s installation this summer.  Considering that we have had to layoff staff and reduce other more critical services to residents, taxpayers and even the Red Flannel Festival, it was a decision that could no longer be avoided.  We hope that our revenue stream improves over the course of the next couple of years and that we can bring it back.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Enacts Two New Policies by Samroxy</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/06/27/city-enacts-two-new-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-7307</link>
		<dc:creator>Samroxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion of sprinkling meters have taken place from the time the waste water treatment plant was constructed and the sticking point was impact on future revenues for the water and waste water utility funds. I do not think there will be a rush on installing sprinkling meters so little impact will be felt on the two funds but long term impact must be considered. With the shallow well ordinance in effect the citizens certainly have options if they do not want to pay the sewer rate for water used that will not be sent to the waste water treatment plant. The critical question is how effective is the inspection process not just at the the time of installation but regular inspections to make sure the water distribution system is not being compromised. I would like to see the the inspection periods written into the Ordinances. One knows that a ordinance is only effective as its enforcement.
Pleased to see work is going on for the renovation of Cedar Creek and habitat to make the Creek more trout friendly. I miss the water fountain in the pond at North Park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion of sprinkling meters have taken place from the time the waste water treatment plant was constructed and the sticking point was impact on future revenues for the water and waste water utility funds. I do not think there will be a rush on installing sprinkling meters so little impact will be felt on the two funds but long term impact must be considered. With the shallow well ordinance in effect the citizens certainly have options if they do not want to pay the sewer rate for water used that will not be sent to the waste water treatment plant. The critical question is how effective is the inspection process not just at the the time of installation but regular inspections to make sure the water distribution system is not being compromised. I would like to see the the inspection periods written into the Ordinances. One knows that a ordinance is only effective as its enforcement.<br />
Pleased to see work is going on for the renovation of Cedar Creek and habitat to make the Creek more trout friendly. I miss the water fountain in the pond at North Park.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two New Ordinances To Take Effect by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/04/20/two-new-ordinances-to-take-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-6502</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The City eliminated the &lt;em&gt;pesticide spraying &lt;/em&gt;at Elmwood Cemetery and Morley Park in the 2011/2012 budget, but we will continue to mow all City property.  The weed ordinance applies to noxious vegetation over 8&quot; in height.  It is not our intent to let the vegetation exceed 8&quot; in height.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City eliminated the <em>pesticide spraying </em>at Elmwood Cemetery and Morley Park in the 2011/2012 budget, but we will continue to mow all City property.  The weed ordinance applies to noxious vegetation over 8&#8243; in height.  It is not our intent to let the vegetation exceed 8&#8243; in height.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two New Ordinances To Take Effect by william wheeler</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/04/20/two-new-ordinances-to-take-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-6495</link>
		<dc:creator>william wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 02:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading about the changes to Ordinance #164 about 3 minutes after I read that the City eliminated Weed control in 2 areas of the budget.  What is the plan for City staying in compliance with the new ordinance?  Seems to be hypocritical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading about the changes to Ordinance #164 about 3 minutes after I read that the City eliminated Weed control in 2 areas of the budget.  What is the plan for City staying in compliance with the new ordinance?  Seems to be hypocritical.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2011/2012 Budget Adopted by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/05/24/20112012-budget-adopted/comment-page-1/#comment-6476</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie - Here are a few responses to some of your questions.  I didn’t quite understand your request for a link to “foreclosure rates.”  Are you asking for state-wide foreclosure rates or just trending for Cedar Springs?  We have a trending graph posted in the City’s budget document, if that’s what you’re looking for.  If not, let me know and I’ll see what I can find.

“&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scrapping the Police Department&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;” – As a matter of fact, this idea was explored when Jerry Homminga was the City Manager.  As you can see by perusing the budget, the PD makes up a large portion of our General Fund.  This is typical in every City that provides police protection.  However, there are a number of factors that you must consider when looking to disband a department.  First of all, is the County even interested in undertaking the endeavor and more importantly, at what cost and what would the coverage be?  What are response times for the Kent County Sheriff’s Department (KCSD) to respond to a call?  If they have a Deputy on a call in another part of the county, response time could be hours.  While we appreciate the job the KCSD does and love the fact that Sheriff Stelma lives in Cedar Springs, he will readily admit that his Deputies do not know our residents by name and cannot provide the same service that the CSPD does.  At the time that the study was done (2006, I believe) there was not much, if any, cost savings.  Weighed against the level of service that Cedar Springs residents demand and deserve, it was decided that it was not in the City’s best interest to disband.  Once a decision like that is made and assets are liquidated, there would be no going back if the relationship with the KCSD didn’t work out.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cooperation and Consolidation with CSPS &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;– This idea has also been explored.  We have met with school officials on several occasions to discuss possible savings on items such as snow plowing, fuel purchases, IT services, office supplies and grounds maintenance.  With Governor Snyder’s new mandates for cooperation and consolidation, we will certainly continue to explore these options with the schools and do whatever we can to save money for the taxpayers.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;School Board/City Council Conflict of Interest &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;– This topic came up recently when a school board member ran for Council and won.  A preliminary legal opinion was presented to the candidate (and now Council Member) that, due to contractual obligations between the City and the School, she could not serve on both boards.  By the time it was all said and done and the Attorney General issued his opinion stating that it was, in fact, a conflict of interest to serve on both boards, the taxpayers of the City and the taxpayers within the school district had committed approximately $10,000 for legal expenses.  Here is a link to the article in the Cedar Springs Post:

http://cedarspringspost.com/2010/03/%e2%80%9cincompatible-offices%e2%80%9d-issue-costs-taxpayers-over-9000/ 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Economic Development &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;– The City continues to try to attract new businesses to the area.  However, it is a difficult task, at best, in this economic climate.  It’s not as if businesses are going elsewhere because we are exceptionally difficult; they aren’t.  New business start ups are darn near non-existent in Michigan right now.  In order for a business to move into Cedar Springs, they must first fill out a Zoning permit and do their homework to see if the business they want to open is allowed (per ordinance) in the location they desire.  If the zoning ordinance does not permit that particular type of business at that particular address (such as an automobile dealership in a Residential District or an industrial manufacturer in a Central Business District) the business person can either request a variance from the ordinance or find a location that is suitable.  City staff makes every attempt to find suitable locations for anybody who approaches us about a business venture.  Keep in mind, though, that zoning districts are established to maintain the integrity of various neighborhoods; we have never, I repeat never  told a business that “we did not want them” but they are required to follow the same laws/ordinances that other businesses are currently following.  Last year, we had a new restaurant relocate from 131/Post Road to downtown Cedar Springs as well as a new Rite Aid constructed.  Both businesses would tell you that opening a business in Cedar Springs is no more difficult than anywhere else in Michigan.  

Here is a really cool link that you can utilize to see what your taxes would be in another community (using your current taxable value in Cedar Springs.)  https://treas-secure.state.mi.us/ptestimator/ptestimator.asp  Council and staff recognize the financial challenges that some of our residents face and have taken a very firm stance about not increasing the millage rate.  The challenge for us is maintaining the same level of services with drastically reduced revenues.  As in your own personal life, when your income decreases, your standard of living must change, too.  As a City, we are no different; we can’t spend what we don’t have.  If you were to come back to visit this summer, you would notice that we’re not chipping brush monthly, we are not mowing the parks as frequently, we’re not string trimming along the trail, etc. because we are down two staff people in the Department of Public Works.  Another, less visible reduction is with the office personnel.  Our part-time office assistant, who worked 8 hours per week, was our primary grant writer/administrator (although he performed numerous other functions as well.)  We have received tens of thousands of dollars in grants due to his expertise.  Grant writing has now fallen by the wayside in his absence.  Our Deputy Clerk position is currently vacant; people will notice that it will take additional time to receive their voter registration cards, absentee ballots or Code Enforcement letters as the City Clerk is attempting to pick up those additional duties now.  Staff members have participated in the budget process and offered cost-saving suggestions (i.e. printing on the back-side of computer paper, eliminating one of two street lights on each corner downtown, etc.) while Council Members have donated their time to plant flowers in the downtown boxes and weeded public gardens.  Honestly, I have been overwhelmed by the dedication and commitment of Council and staff this past few months.  Trust me when I say, it hasn’t been an easy process and until people walk a mile in the shoes of their local elected officials or City staff, then they have no right to judge or criticize the job that is being done on their behalf, because these folks live here too and want to do the best job they possibly can.

In the words of Plato – “Be Kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.”

Again, I thank you for your balanced position, open mind and interest in this process.   You set a very good example for every taxpayer to follow.  Participate.  It does matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie &#8211; Here are a few responses to some of your questions.  I didn’t quite understand your request for a link to “foreclosure rates.”  Are you asking for state-wide foreclosure rates or just trending for Cedar Springs?  We have a trending graph posted in the City’s budget document, if that’s what you’re looking for.  If not, let me know and I’ll see what I can find.</p>
<p>“<strong><em>Scrapping the Police Department</em></strong>” – As a matter of fact, this idea was explored when Jerry Homminga was the City Manager.  As you can see by perusing the budget, the PD makes up a large portion of our General Fund.  This is typical in every City that provides police protection.  However, there are a number of factors that you must consider when looking to disband a department.  First of all, is the County even interested in undertaking the endeavor and more importantly, at what cost and what would the coverage be?  What are response times for the Kent County Sheriff’s Department (KCSD) to respond to a call?  If they have a Deputy on a call in another part of the county, response time could be hours.  While we appreciate the job the KCSD does and love the fact that Sheriff Stelma lives in Cedar Springs, he will readily admit that his Deputies do not know our residents by name and cannot provide the same service that the CSPD does.  At the time that the study was done (2006, I believe) there was not much, if any, cost savings.  Weighed against the level of service that Cedar Springs residents demand and deserve, it was decided that it was not in the City’s best interest to disband.  Once a decision like that is made and assets are liquidated, there would be no going back if the relationship with the KCSD didn’t work out.</p>
<p><em><strong>Cooperation and Consolidation with CSPS </strong></em>– This idea has also been explored.  We have met with school officials on several occasions to discuss possible savings on items such as snow plowing, fuel purchases, IT services, office supplies and grounds maintenance.  With Governor Snyder’s new mandates for cooperation and consolidation, we will certainly continue to explore these options with the schools and do whatever we can to save money for the taxpayers.</p>
<p><em><strong>School Board/City Council Conflict of Interest </strong></em>– This topic came up recently when a school board member ran for Council and won.  A preliminary legal opinion was presented to the candidate (and now Council Member) that, due to contractual obligations between the City and the School, she could not serve on both boards.  By the time it was all said and done and the Attorney General issued his opinion stating that it was, in fact, a conflict of interest to serve on both boards, the taxpayers of the City and the taxpayers within the school district had committed approximately $10,000 for legal expenses.  Here is a link to the article in the Cedar Springs Post:</p>
<p><a href="http://cedarspringspost.com/2010/03/%e2%80%9cincompatible-offices%e2%80%9d-issue-costs-taxpayers-over-9000/" rel="nofollow">http://cedarspringspost.com/2010/03/%e2%80%9cincompatible-offices%e2%80%9d-issue-costs-taxpayers-over-9000/</a> </p>
<p><em><strong>Economic Development </strong></em>– The City continues to try to attract new businesses to the area.  However, it is a difficult task, at best, in this economic climate.  It’s not as if businesses are going elsewhere because we are exceptionally difficult; they aren’t.  New business start ups are darn near non-existent in Michigan right now.  In order for a business to move into Cedar Springs, they must first fill out a Zoning permit and do their homework to see if the business they want to open is allowed (per ordinance) in the location they desire.  If the zoning ordinance does not permit that particular type of business at that particular address (such as an automobile dealership in a Residential District or an industrial manufacturer in a Central Business District) the business person can either request a variance from the ordinance or find a location that is suitable.  City staff makes every attempt to find suitable locations for anybody who approaches us about a business venture.  Keep in mind, though, that zoning districts are established to maintain the integrity of various neighborhoods; we have never, I repeat never  told a business that “we did not want them” but they are required to follow the same laws/ordinances that other businesses are currently following.  Last year, we had a new restaurant relocate from 131/Post Road to downtown Cedar Springs as well as a new Rite Aid constructed.  Both businesses would tell you that opening a business in Cedar Springs is no more difficult than anywhere else in Michigan.  </p>
<p>Here is a really cool link that you can utilize to see what your taxes would be in another community (using your current taxable value in Cedar Springs.)  <a href="https://treas-secure.state.mi.us/ptestimator/ptestimator.asp" rel="nofollow">https://treas-secure.state.mi.us/ptestimator/ptestimator.asp</a>  Council and staff recognize the financial challenges that some of our residents face and have taken a very firm stance about not increasing the millage rate.  The challenge for us is maintaining the same level of services with drastically reduced revenues.  As in your own personal life, when your income decreases, your standard of living must change, too.  As a City, we are no different; we can’t spend what we don’t have.  If you were to come back to visit this summer, you would notice that we’re not chipping brush monthly, we are not mowing the parks as frequently, we’re not string trimming along the trail, etc. because we are down two staff people in the Department of Public Works.  Another, less visible reduction is with the office personnel.  Our part-time office assistant, who worked 8 hours per week, was our primary grant writer/administrator (although he performed numerous other functions as well.)  We have received tens of thousands of dollars in grants due to his expertise.  Grant writing has now fallen by the wayside in his absence.  Our Deputy Clerk position is currently vacant; people will notice that it will take additional time to receive their voter registration cards, absentee ballots or Code Enforcement letters as the City Clerk is attempting to pick up those additional duties now.  Staff members have participated in the budget process and offered cost-saving suggestions (i.e. printing on the back-side of computer paper, eliminating one of two street lights on each corner downtown, etc.) while Council Members have donated their time to plant flowers in the downtown boxes and weeded public gardens.  Honestly, I have been overwhelmed by the dedication and commitment of Council and staff this past few months.  Trust me when I say, it hasn’t been an easy process and until people walk a mile in the shoes of their local elected officials or City staff, then they have no right to judge or criticize the job that is being done on their behalf, because these folks live here too and want to do the best job they possibly can.</p>
<p>In the words of Plato – “Be Kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.”</p>
<p>Again, I thank you for your balanced position, open mind and interest in this process.   You set a very good example for every taxpayer to follow.  Participate.  It does matter.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2011/2012 Budget Adopted by Charlie Towns</title>
		<link>http://www.cityofcedarsprings.org/2011/05/24/20112012-budget-adopted/comment-page-1/#comment-6460</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Towns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you please provide me a direct link to the Foreclosure rates on the cites website? As far as the &quot;broken window&quot; theory I am not sure I completely agree with it. Still it was an interesting read. 

Has anyone ever ran the numbers on how much it would cost/save if we scrapped our police department and paid the County to fill in the gap with patrols? Can such a thing be done? Have we looked into it? How much would we paying for it?

Just so everyone knows since you put my tax value up here. My payment is $534 per month with escrow ins ect ect.... So it is significantly lower than many mortgages. That is why the escrow almost doubles the payment. Given other things I will not get discuss on here it is a significant bill for me every month although it is still small compared to the payments of others. We are all aware that economic times are tough, so I am certain I am not the only resident who is struggling. 

I guess the way I view my taxes is as one big lump. The school taxes push my tax bill up as well. The part of my tax bill that the city can not help is the CSPS. Which combined with the City bill adds up. I do not understand why someone can not serve on the school board and City Counsel. I know this issue came up in late 2009 time frame. 

To me it makes perfect sense that you would want someone who has knowledge of the city on the school board. Perhaps someone in both positions would be in a better position to see how the City and School can not just keep taking more and more money from the tax base forever . Perhaps they  would tell the school they need to control their cost and not build and a outrageous synthetic turf field with no consideration of maintenance, and continue to use the perfectly fine Skinner Field.  Perhaps they could tell them that one day these little pet projects they build will need to be maintained. CSPS continuously ask for more money like it is a unlimited resource. They have even less of a clue than the City about how their tax rates negatively effect people. 

What if any cooperation has been made between the City and the School as far as taxes go? Has the City or the School tried to coordinate their efforts in this area? Has one of these two ever decided not to ask for money because of what the other is asking? I see you have a Committee that interfaces with the school when needed. How often do they meet?

You make an interesting point about Greenville and Rockford. They do have larger commercial bases. I am sure everyone agrees if we could build up our commercial base like that then it would benefit all of us. 

For as long as I can remember, I have heard about City Hall turning business&#039; away. About the business being fed up with us be it the taxs ect ect.... I would like very much to quantify this statement with examples. But.... in all fairness to you (the City) that is just hearing things. Anyone can make a negative statement it does not mean it is true. 

The last time I was home in late March I had heard the City turned away a business because it did not fit in with their (the cities) &quot;vision&quot;. What are the requirements for a Business to move into Cedar Springs? Are they offered any tax breaks for the first couple of years? Is there a &quot;vision&quot; that the City wants the business to conform too? If so then what is that &quot;vision&quot;? Has the City told a business that we do not want them? How many business&#039;s where looking to move into Cedar Springs in the last year and decided not to and went somewhere else? What where their reasons? 

I do not pretend to be as educated as some who work for the City. I have only taken one class in economics and did not do very well at it. I did however take away from it that there are two basic sides of thinking; supply side and demand side. Both have valid points. Supply side folks would probably argue that a higher tax bill is more than likely to push business&#039;s away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you please provide me a direct link to the Foreclosure rates on the cites website? As far as the &#8220;broken window&#8221; theory I am not sure I completely agree with it. Still it was an interesting read. </p>
<p>Has anyone ever ran the numbers on how much it would cost/save if we scrapped our police department and paid the County to fill in the gap with patrols? Can such a thing be done? Have we looked into it? How much would we paying for it?</p>
<p>Just so everyone knows since you put my tax value up here. My payment is $534 per month with escrow ins ect ect&#8230;. So it is significantly lower than many mortgages. That is why the escrow almost doubles the payment. Given other things I will not get discuss on here it is a significant bill for me every month although it is still small compared to the payments of others. We are all aware that economic times are tough, so I am certain I am not the only resident who is struggling. </p>
<p>I guess the way I view my taxes is as one big lump. The school taxes push my tax bill up as well. The part of my tax bill that the city can not help is the CSPS. Which combined with the City bill adds up. I do not understand why someone can not serve on the school board and City Counsel. I know this issue came up in late 2009 time frame. </p>
<p>To me it makes perfect sense that you would want someone who has knowledge of the city on the school board. Perhaps someone in both positions would be in a better position to see how the City and School can not just keep taking more and more money from the tax base forever . Perhaps they  would tell the school they need to control their cost and not build and a outrageous synthetic turf field with no consideration of maintenance, and continue to use the perfectly fine Skinner Field.  Perhaps they could tell them that one day these little pet projects they build will need to be maintained. CSPS continuously ask for more money like it is a unlimited resource. They have even less of a clue than the City about how their tax rates negatively effect people. </p>
<p>What if any cooperation has been made between the City and the School as far as taxes go? Has the City or the School tried to coordinate their efforts in this area? Has one of these two ever decided not to ask for money because of what the other is asking? I see you have a Committee that interfaces with the school when needed. How often do they meet?</p>
<p>You make an interesting point about Greenville and Rockford. They do have larger commercial bases. I am sure everyone agrees if we could build up our commercial base like that then it would benefit all of us. </p>
<p>For as long as I can remember, I have heard about City Hall turning business&#8217; away. About the business being fed up with us be it the taxs ect ect&#8230;. I would like very much to quantify this statement with examples. But&#8230;. in all fairness to you (the City) that is just hearing things. Anyone can make a negative statement it does not mean it is true. </p>
<p>The last time I was home in late March I had heard the City turned away a business because it did not fit in with their (the cities) &#8220;vision&#8221;. What are the requirements for a Business to move into Cedar Springs? Are they offered any tax breaks for the first couple of years? Is there a &#8220;vision&#8221; that the City wants the business to conform too? If so then what is that &#8220;vision&#8221;? Has the City told a business that we do not want them? How many business&#8217;s where looking to move into Cedar Springs in the last year and decided not to and went somewhere else? What where their reasons? </p>
<p>I do not pretend to be as educated as some who work for the City. I have only taken one class in economics and did not do very well at it. I did however take away from it that there are two basic sides of thinking; supply side and demand side. Both have valid points. Supply side folks would probably argue that a higher tax bill is more than likely to push business&#8217;s away.</p>
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